Keenan Cornelius Interview on VICEs Fight Land

Keenan Cornelious BJJ VICE Interview

Keenan Cornelious BJJ VICE InterviewIn just a few short years, twenty two year-old Keenan Cornelius has captured the imagination of every young athlete striving to make jiu jitsu a career. Notable for his mixed success at the white and blue belt level, something switched within the Hawaii-born fighter in and around 2011.


As a purple belt, Cornelius won double gold medals at the four major IBJJF tournaments—the World Jiu-Jitsu Championship, Pan-American Championship, European Open Championship, and Brazilian National Jiu-Jitsu Championship. As a brown belt, he won 109 matches straight. In his first year as a black belt, he won double bronze at ADCC, closed out the Pan Ams and won bronze in the open division at this year’s world championships.


After a strong showing at last weekend’s Metamoris, in which he earned a draw against ADCC champion Vinny Magalhães, Fightland spoke to Cornelius about the highs and lows of his life as a professional athlete in a growing sport.

Fightland: Talk to me about the sport jiu jitsu competition circuit. How does Metamoris shake up the scene?

Keenan Cornelius: It really helps out the guys who compete to make a living. It’s a weird culture where professional jiu jitsu fighters pay to go compete at Worlds and pay and go compete at these other tournaments. It’s nice to have a venue and event that really supports the fighters, Metamoris treats people the best out of all the tournaments. They pay the best, they really care about their fighters, they ask for your opinion on who you want to fight. They really work with you a lot.

It’s great they have connections to the UFC and are bringing jiu jitsu to a more public eye. It makes it more viewer friendly with no points, there’s nothing you really need to understand. One guy submits another guy; anyone with a basic understanding of jiu jitsu can enjoy that. They can get behind the characters of the fighters through profiles and countdown videos. As opposed to the Worlds where it’s ridiculously complicated points system that nobody really understands—you have to be a purple belt to even understand the rules.

I think I’m going to be able to compete in the next couple of Metamoris’ as well, Ralek was telling me I’d make a return.

Are the IBJJF tournaments still the most valued tournaments on the competition scene?

They are important for history. It can change over time though. The Brazilian Nationals used to be a really big tournament and it was important if you won that. People said that the Brazilian Nationals were harder than the Worlds. It’s now dwindled because the high level guys are here in California. Now the biggest tournament is the World Pro, it’s the hardest next to Worlds. Worlds are still incredibly important to me and I want that black belt world title and I’m not going to stop competing. It was the goal I originally set out for in Brazilian jiu jitsu and I will see it through.

Can you talk to me about this year’s IBJJF World Championships?

I’ve just written it off as these things happen. There’s nothing I can do about it now, it happened. It’s out of my control. I’m obviously never happy with bronze; I actually lost the medal when we were filming the Metamoris video. I forgot to bring it back with me.

The main perspective it gave me was I never had problems with referees. In the last few years I’ve never had bad calls, but for some reason at this year’s Worlds all the refs were giving me a hard time. It was sad for me to experience that, I don’t know if it was a prejudice thing, all the refs are Brazilians. Me and JT were some of the only Americans. There are so few Americans competing, and now that some are doing really well, you wonder if there’s bias going on. If you watch my match with Leandro Lo [where I was disqualified], I blatantly swept him two or three times and if it’s a near sweep and like I swept him onto his back and then he came back on top that’s in sport jiu jitsu called an advantage. I wasn’t given a single advantage point for those things. I just look at it like another challenge. You have to beat your opponent and the refs. At the black belt level so few people can just go in and dominate, matches are decided in inches and these refs have so much power over it all, it’s like… what’s the point of competing if it’s stacked against you so much? But I’m not going to let that stop me.

How do you mentally prepare for the rigour of a tournament like the Worlds, where you could be fighting upwards of 12 people?

It’s kind of like a long process. When you sign up for a tournament, say you’re fighting at Metamoris. You could be thinking about it every day, but the second you stop worrying about it and accept that it’s going to happen, it’ll help you the day of. I don’t even think about it. I went to training not even thinking about Vinny once during camp. I just focus on the training and enjoying the training. Metamoris kind of snuck up on me actually. Once you have the mind-set of not worrying about it during training, you won’t worry about the actual event itself. I practice letting all emotions out of my brain early, because there’s no sense in worrying about it. You can psyche yourself out easily by worrying. It’s better to let what ever’s going to happen, happen.

Do you throw away all your medals that aren’t gold?

I still have a couple of them. Usually I do just get rid of them. Not in a dramatic way, I just don’t like to see them or have them around. They look inconsistent; when I have my collection of medals I want them to be the gold. It’s inevitable, people lose. I like to hold myself to a higher standard because I don’t think that silver or bronze has any value.

Are you a fan of the point’s system, or do you prefer submission only?

I feel like more submissions come from the points system—you have to submit people when there’s points involved. In a submission only match, you can instantly feel if a guy’s good or not. When someone feels someone else’s pressure, you can turtle up. You stop worrying about the points and worry only about survival. In the BJJ Kumite, after a certain amount of time, guys would just stop going for submissions and attack and just purely work on surviving.

I’ve competed against the same people in a points match and was able to get submissions quicker because as I attack the back, they defend the hooks, and when their focusing on not getting scored on, it opens up submissions. In submission only, a guy won’t care. He’s just going to defend his neck. It’s easy to not get submitted and not get points scored. I prefer watching point’s matches over submission only. Submission only matches; I’m only interested in the outcome. In a points match, I’m curious to see everything that lead up to the outcome.

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